Bob Dylan Does Sinatra: Why Did It Take Two Months For News Of a 2nd Album To Surface?

Tracy Phillips in Dylan video for “The Night We Called It A Day”

It’s only been in the past week that the news that Dylan has recorded a second album of standards has made headlines. And yet we’ve actually known that a second album’s worth of material was recorded since early January.

Why the delay?

Slightly over two months ago, I posted that Al Schmitt, the recording engineer for the Dylan Shadows in The Night sessions, had said in an interview that Dylan had recorded enough songs – 23 in total that had been previously recorded by Frank Sinatra — for two albums. And in that interview Schmitt referred to Shadows in The Night as “this first album,” implying that there would be a second.

The video interview with Schmitt appeared on YouTube on January 4, 2015.

Although the interviewer, Stephen Peeples, planned a wide-ranging conversation covering Schmitt’s long career working with Frank Sinatra, Henry Mancini, Cal Tjader, Al Hirt, Rosemary Clooney, Liverpool Five, The Astronauts, Sam Cooke, Steely Dan, Neil Young and many more, almost immediately they started talking about the latest album Schmitt had completed: Shadows In The Night.

During that interview we learned two key facts. Although Shadows In The Night would include ten songs, Dylan had actually recorded more than twice that many songs.

“It worked great, and overall we did 23 songs,” Schmidt said. “Only 10 are on this first album.”

When Peeples asked Schmidt about a second album, Schmidt seemed to back off that he had previously implied.

“I have no idea, I don’t know,” Schmitt said. “I have no idea. And with Bob… He won’t tell you [laughs].”

We also learned from Schmitt that all the songs were “a re-interpretation of songs that Frank Sinatra did in the ‘40s and early ‘50s, although as it turned out one, “Stay With Me,” was written in 1963, one, “Where Are You?,” was written in 1937 and one, “What’ll I Do?,” was written in 1923.

In his ARRP interview it seemed that Dylan tried to downplay the fact that Shadows In The Night is an album of songs previously recorded by Frank Sinatra, but according to Schmidt, that’s exactly what it is.

“It’s a re-interpretation of songs that Frank Sinatra did in the ‘40s and early ‘50s,” Schmidt said.

And Schmidt explained: “He would listen to the songs over and over and get Sinatra’s intention on what he was doing with the song. Then he would only do two or three takes on each tune, but he would make it his own. It had nothing to do with Sinatra. He’d just learn what the song was about and whatever. It was an interesting way to work. It was a lot of fun.”

It wasn’t until last week, when Daniel Lanois confirmed that there would be a second album, that the news made headlines. Rolling Stone, Newsweek and The Guardian are just some of the many news media who have reported the news.

“He came to my house eight or six months ago and spent a few hours,” Lanois told the Vancouver Sun. “We listened to 21 songs — because he’s made two records of this (Sinatra project). And he said, ‘Let me tell you, Dan: If you have the time, can I tell you how I grew up?’ So we sat in the kitchen. I hadn’t heard a note.

“He spoke for an hour and a half on how, as a kid, you couldn’t even get pictures of anybody. You might get a record but you didn’t know what they looked like. So there was a lot of mystery associated with the work at the time. As far as hearing live music, he only heard a couple of shows a year, like the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra might come through.

“But the music he did hear really touched him and he felt that a lot of that music was written not only by great professional songwriters at the time, but a lot of it was written from the heart, from the wartime, and people just pining for a lover. He felt there was a lot of spirit in that music. He felt there was a kind of beauty, a sacred ground for him.

“After having said all that, we then listened to the music and I felt everything that he talked about. For one of America’s great writers to say, ‘I’m not gonna write a song. I’m gonna pay homage to what shook me as young boy,’ I thought was very graceful and dignified.”

So far Dylan’s publicists have not confirmed that there will be a second album.

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15 thoughts on “Bob Dylan Does Sinatra: Why Did It Take Two Months For News Of a 2nd Album To Surface?

  1. One’s enough thank’s Bob. Bought it, played it once, liked it. But I mean, do we need more? I’d much prefer an album of original songs.

  2. The interpretations of the songs on Shadows in the Night are tremendous. Dylan and the band are in fine form, indeed. Written from the heart and performed in kind. More? Oh, yes. Absolutely.

  3. I consider myself as big a bob fan as could be,i have seen him live 43 times, i have all of his official output(minus shadows),lots of it on more than one format,i have a huge amount of unofficial recordings,i love even the albums the hardcore fans hate,there’s very little of bob’s career i haven’t loved,I am more than a bit obsessed by bob☺☺then sometime back, i heard the news about his next album, normally a hugely exciting time for me,it was to be an album of sinatra songs!! this filled me with dread at the thought, i really have no time for this genre of music,i know there are people who love it as much as i love bob,but i ain’t one of them,I figured it’s bob,so give him the benefit of the doubt,On release day i listened to samples and my worst fears were confirmed!! i reallly don’t like it,this was the first bob album i haven’t bought on it’s release day in more than 30 years!, the way i looked at it was, it’s bob and he can do whatever the hell he wants,he certainly doesn’t owe anybody,i was happy for bob and the success of his album for him and looked forward to his next real album,now i read there will be a second one!! people who know me can’t believe i didn’t just buy the album because it’s bob,if i don’t like the style of music,i will not buy it,even if it’s got bob’s name on, i always loved the fact that he didn’t play the making an album of “american standards” game, i love rod stewart (70’s rod),everybody thought it was great when he did the american songbook albums,no thanks,i see bob as the polar opposite of this genre and that’s one of the many reasons i love him, i’ve stuck with him through the good and bad times,but not this time out,as much as it shocks me! Rant over.

  4. He didn’t record a second album. He recordered a lot of songs he didn’t use on this record. They’re called outtakes, not an album.

  5. I gotta say after seeing the new video, it works better. Dylan’s songs always create images in the listeners mind, I mean we can all picture Hollis Brown’s cabin, mare and family. Shadows is a modern day Newport ’65 moment for a lot of his hardcore audience, well maybe not. My point being, these standards are good background music to motion pictures. Best Sinatra cover ever? Sid Vicous, of course, sorry Bob!!

    1. I can’t believe these people when they say they are Dylan fans. It is not possible to not be drawn into the power of these songs through Dylan’s fascinating interpretations. If you like Dylan you have to like his voice. There is magic and heartbreak in every note he sings. Bob, a second album of the Great American Songbook would be just what the doctor ordered for people of my generation ( I’m 61), and those of younger generations, will hopefully someday get it. You are our finest singer songwriter and so deserving of the acclaim you have received.

  6. it didn’t take 2 months for this to surface. the initial press release clearly stated that Dylan recorded 21 tracks during the session. it took 2 months for people to put that together

    1. No, the press release did not say that Dylan recorded 21 tracks. At least not the press release I saw. And my point is that it wasn’t until the Vancouver Sun ran the Lanois quotes that the media began reporting that there may be a second album of standards from Dylan.

  7. The last time Dylan put out two “covers’ records , then spent time with Lanois, the sequel was Time Out of Mind. Is it too much to hope these records are Bob listening close again for what comes next?

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